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    questions about proximity sensor

    I read the 2nd sticky that talks about "schedule learning" and that the Nest has two prox sensors.

    My concern/question is the stat will not "come on" from me walking past it unless I wave my hand about 3 inches from the front of it. (gen 1)

    Is this concerning? The stat is in our main hallway that is about 5 feet across from a door/wall, so it's not in a hidden location.

    If it's not trigger from us walking a foot from it how can I trust that its working properly?

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    I think you have a valid concern. You can turn off the occupied/unoccupied option, I think. Yet another NEST not living up to the dreams. A set schedule is always a better option in my opinion. If you want to deviate from the schedule.....how hard is it really to go to the thermostat or pull out your phone or sit at your computer and change the temp?


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    Quote Originally Posted by hvactechfw View Post
    I think you have a valid concern. You can turn off the occupied/unoccupied option, I think. Yet another NEST not living up to the dreams. A set schedule is always a better option in my opinion. If you want to deviate from the schedule.....how hard is it really to go to the thermostat or pull out your phone or sit at your computer and change the temp?
    Quote Originally Posted by hvactechfw View Post
    I think you have a valid concern. You can turn off the occupied/unoccupied option, I think. Yet another NEST not living up to the dreams. A set schedule is always a better option in my opinion. If you want to deviate from the schedule.....how hard is it really to go to the thermostat or pull out your phone or sit at your computer and change the temp?
    Thanks for your time but I really didn't ask about a philosophical argument on why or why not to have such a product. A product like this is not about just deviating...it's "smart" and "algorithmic" way of data processing that allows for savings beyond a stand programable with static and limited time points. It's a pretty slippery slow opinion too...why not just not have an old 1955 dial thermostat and get off our lazy butts and change it as required? Why have garage door openers, security systems, door bells, or them there fancy computers systems!?!? I like the idea of waking up on Sunday morning in the summer and dialing up from my iphone the temp I want the house to be when I return from the boat. Since I come back at different times based on how miserably hot it is at the boat...this is pretty handy when it takes a few hours to get the house to the temp I want in 98F weather.

    I bought my parents a Honeywell thermostat several years ago...they could never figure out how to program it, so I did it for them. Then I go back 6 months later and they couldn't figure out how to make changes so they leave it on HOLD 24/7. That's one of the many reasons why a "smart" unit seems like a great idea beyond the artimatic reason you don't grasp.

    Thanks for offering knowledge of the NEST unit in the nest forum...do you work for Honeywell?

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    NO, I don't work for Honeywell. I am a service technician and I know first hand what works and what does not work. NEST does not seem to have done very good quality control which is one of many reasons why I do not think the NEST is a good thermostat. NEST also is not very sharing in their technical support side of things. A number of people have not had good luck with NEST tech support, I'm guessing you did not either and that is why you are here? The proximity sensor will probably not work well for you anyway because your thermostat is in a hallway, unless you use the hallway frequently. Very few technicians at this forum and many others that I frequent have vast knowledge of the NEST because we can't sell it and have never used the NEST in person. If we were to sell it the cost would be close to $500 by the time it was installed if we paid retail price for it. NEST does not sell their product to contractors at a wholesale price as far as I know. I am not willing to spend $250 on paperweight that I don't plan on using just so I can offer help at forums. I am only trying to offer help and an opinion of a professional that installs HVAC controls every day. I know how HVAC systems work. I know what works best to control them. I know what I see from many forums about certain HVAC controls. I offer my opinion because I think that it has solid backing because I do this for a living. Just the same..... Hunter makes great fans, not thermostats. That is my opinion, but I think that pretty much resonates through the community of professional technicians. I apologize if you did not like my response, but there was absolutely no reason for you to snap at me the way you did. There are many better thermostats out there on the market that, in my opinion, do a better job than the NEST. Many other thermostats are accessible through your phone or internet connection. It is not like NEST is the only one to have that feature.

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    Many other thermostats are accessible through your phone or internet connection. It is not like NEST is the only one to have that feature.

    Can you list some of them. I use my Android phone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trev21 View Post
    Many other thermostats are accessible through your phone or internet connection. It is not like NEST is the only one to have that feature.

    Can you list some of them. I use my Android phone.
    Sure... ecobee, honeywell, 3M, & Trane are the first ones that come to mind. I'm sure there are more. A simple Google search should give you plenty of results for a wifi thermostat.

 

 

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